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	<title>Comments on: Tribes &#8211; Why I Don&#8217;t Belong To Third or Any Other</title>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-49093</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!! There are a mighty lot who fall for these. Good enlightenment for such people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!! There are a mighty lot who fall for these. Good enlightenment for such people.</p>
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		<title>By: jackie</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-37903</link>
		<dc:creator>jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting point - I saw your article about the Third Tribe and I have to admit I much prefer being in that one than the first or second, but I honestly don&#039;t see why there has to be tribes. I haven&#039;t yet checked out the Third Tribe Program and I&#039;m not sure if I will but there have to be people who fit neatly into their own box and don&#039;t need to be labelled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting point &#8211; I saw your article about the Third Tribe and I have to admit I much prefer being in that one than the first or second, but I honestly don&#8217;t see why there has to be tribes. I haven&#8217;t yet checked out the Third Tribe Program and I&#8217;m not sure if I will but there have to be people who fit neatly into their own box and don&#8217;t need to be labelled.</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-30868</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on a slow connection so I apologise if this point has been made already; I haven&#039;t read many of them as the speed is little better than an old 28k dial-up!

My reservation about the Tribes is simple - they contradict the philosophy that so many a-list bloggers write about: that Web 2.0 and 3.0 when it&#039;s born are about personal choice, about being yourself - sing your song with your voice and add value in your own way. 

Networking with like-minded people is one thing; joining a tribe where the price of non-conformity is to find yourself booted out is a totally different matter.

Ok - I&#039;ll get my coat and leave now before I fall off my soap box and break something valuable in Lis&#039;s emporium!

Love and Light

Nic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on a slow connection so I apologise if this point has been made already; I haven&#8217;t read many of them as the speed is little better than an old 28k dial-up!</p>
<p>My reservation about the Tribes is simple &#8211; they contradict the philosophy that so many a-list bloggers write about: that Web 2.0 and 3.0 when it&#8217;s born are about personal choice, about being yourself &#8211; sing your song with your voice and add value in your own way. </p>
<p>Networking with like-minded people is one thing; joining a tribe where the price of non-conformity is to find yourself booted out is a totally different matter.</p>
<p>Ok &#8211; I&#8217;ll get my coat and leave now before I fall off my soap box and break something valuable in Lis&#8217;s emporium!</p>
<p>Love and Light</p>
<p>Nic</p>
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		<title>By: Paige Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-29728</link>
		<dc:creator>Paige Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wasn&#039;t really the point I was responding to. It doesn&#039;t really affect you whether or not *I&#039;m* getting my own value out of it. It&#039;s up to the individual to determine the value of the product (in this case, 3T) versus the value of the money they&#039;re spending. From what I&#039;ve noticed, you prefer a different website&#039;s method - that&#039;s fine by me. 

My response was to the part of your post that talked about &quot;following the crowd&quot; and &quot;being part of the group&quot;, not about whether 3T was actually worth the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wasn&#8217;t really the point I was responding to. It doesn&#8217;t really affect you whether or not *I&#8217;m* getting my own value out of it. It&#8217;s up to the individual to determine the value of the product (in this case, 3T) versus the value of the money they&#8217;re spending. From what I&#8217;ve noticed, you prefer a different website&#8217;s method &#8211; that&#8217;s fine by me. </p>
<p>My response was to the part of your post that talked about &#8220;following the crowd&#8221; and &#8220;being part of the group&#8221;, not about whether 3T was actually worth the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Lis</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-29311</link>
		<dc:creator>Lis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real point though Paige is are you making more money from your 3T membership than they are charging you? Networking is nice - but who do you want to really network with beginners or those who are at the top of the game you want to play?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real point though Paige is are you making more money from your 3T membership than they are charging you? Networking is nice &#8211; but who do you want to really network with beginners or those who are at the top of the game you want to play?</p>
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		<title>By: Paige Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-28871</link>
		<dc:creator>Paige Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say I completely agree with your comments, but I can&#039;t disagree with them either. If you&#039;re not enjoying what you find, then there&#039;s really no point in staying and paying the money, is there?

Being a part of a &quot;group&quot;,&quot;tribe&quot;, &quot;clique&quot;, or whatever you want to call it is a matter of choice. Being an atheist myself, I can completely relate to feeling out of place in religious situations. At the same time, I&#039;m finding resources and connections I can use inside the Third Tribe, which was the whole point of my participation. People who blindly follow groups simply for the sake of &quot;being part of something&quot; have other issues that they need to address, but that doesn&#039;t mean that everyone who decides to sign up for something enthusiastically is doing it simply for the label. If we&#039;re going to talk about labels (and I&#039;m honestly not pointing fingers, because this post didn&#039;t really come across like this) then keep in mind that there are often just as many people who play the rebel for the same reasons. &quot;It&#039;s cool to be a rebel&quot;, etc.

Essentially, my point is this - if you make your choice as an individual who is doing it for their own sake and not for the sake of following others, then who really cares about what the actual choice is? I&#039;m finding value in the choice I made - you didn&#039;t, so you made a different choice. Both are right in their own way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say I completely agree with your comments, but I can&#8217;t disagree with them either. If you&#8217;re not enjoying what you find, then there&#8217;s really no point in staying and paying the money, is there?</p>
<p>Being a part of a &#8220;group&#8221;,&#8221;tribe&#8221;, &#8220;clique&#8221;, or whatever you want to call it is a matter of choice. Being an atheist myself, I can completely relate to feeling out of place in religious situations. At the same time, I&#8217;m finding resources and connections I can use inside the Third Tribe, which was the whole point of my participation. People who blindly follow groups simply for the sake of &#8220;being part of something&#8221; have other issues that they need to address, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that everyone who decides to sign up for something enthusiastically is doing it simply for the label. If we&#8217;re going to talk about labels (and I&#8217;m honestly not pointing fingers, because this post didn&#8217;t really come across like this) then keep in mind that there are often just as many people who play the rebel for the same reasons. &#8220;It&#8217;s cool to be a rebel&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>Essentially, my point is this &#8211; if you make your choice as an individual who is doing it for their own sake and not for the sake of following others, then who really cares about what the actual choice is? I&#8217;m finding value in the choice I made &#8211; you didn&#8217;t, so you made a different choice. Both are right in their own way.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney Daut</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-28371</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney Daut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lis,

Thank you for responding to my comment.  I guess I just don&#039;t understand why what they are doing is a bad thing or why you think it is &quot;just&quot; a marketing ploy.  I agree that it&#039;s certainly a marketing tactic.  But I also think that they may be onto something valuable as well.  I have clients who seem to hate marketing but they like the kind of relationship marketing advocated by Third Tribe folks.  I don&#039;t think that necessarily means those ideas are right for all niches though.  In some niches in which buyers are desperate and only have one problem they want solved they don&#039;t want a relationship with you, they only want a solution and even list building is a waste of time in those niches based on my testing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lis,</p>
<p>Thank you for responding to my comment.  I guess I just don&#8217;t understand why what they are doing is a bad thing or why you think it is &#8220;just&#8221; a marketing ploy.  I agree that it&#8217;s certainly a marketing tactic.  But I also think that they may be onto something valuable as well.  I have clients who seem to hate marketing but they like the kind of relationship marketing advocated by Third Tribe folks.  I don&#8217;t think that necessarily means those ideas are right for all niches though.  In some niches in which buyers are desperate and only have one problem they want solved they don&#8217;t want a relationship with you, they only want a solution and even list building is a waste of time in those niches based on my testing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lis</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-28367</link>
		<dc:creator>Lis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is about the larger picture Rodney. Third Tribe is not so much a conformity movememnt - its just a tag which allows people to identify and decide they are part of that particular group rather than another. Its a clever marketing ploy - along very similar lines which have been working in direct sales and Internet Marketing for years.  The initial launch was to gather in the &#039;faithful&#039; - but they have just moved to stage two - which is a post I am currently writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is about the larger picture Rodney. Third Tribe is not so much a conformity movememnt &#8211; its just a tag which allows people to identify and decide they are part of that particular group rather than another. Its a clever marketing ploy &#8211; along very similar lines which have been working in direct sales and Internet Marketing for years.  The initial launch was to gather in the &#8216;faithful&#8217; &#8211; but they have just moved to stage two &#8211; which is a post I am currently writing!</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney Daut</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-28366</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney Daut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lis,

Maybe I&#039;m missing something here but when I read your post and then read about Third Tribe Marketing I get the sense you are writing about something other than Third Tribe Marketing.  It sounds like you are writing about the concept of conformity and assuming that The Third Tribe is a conformity movement.

From what I understand the Third Tribe concept describes a mentality that some people have.  It describes a set of beliefs that various people have arrived at independently about how to market themselves and their products.  And while some people may have been persuaded to become Third Tribers, the goal isn&#039;t to convert people to this way of thinking.  It&#039;s to gather up people who already believe and allow them to help each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lis,</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m missing something here but when I read your post and then read about Third Tribe Marketing I get the sense you are writing about something other than Third Tribe Marketing.  It sounds like you are writing about the concept of conformity and assuming that The Third Tribe is a conformity movement.</p>
<p>From what I understand the Third Tribe concept describes a mentality that some people have.  It describes a set of beliefs that various people have arrived at independently about how to market themselves and their products.  And while some people may have been persuaded to become Third Tribers, the goal isn&#8217;t to convert people to this way of thinking.  It&#8217;s to gather up people who already believe and allow them to help each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://lissowerbutts.com/tribes-why-i-dont-belong-to-third-or-any-other/comment-page-1/#comment-27662</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting thing is Agrande, there is exactly no promise of quick riches with the 3rd tribe.  You will be spending money on the membership fee and losing money by wasting your time participating in forums with other people who also have no idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing is Agrande, there is exactly no promise of quick riches with the 3rd tribe.  You will be spending money on the membership fee and losing money by wasting your time participating in forums with other people who also have no idea.</p>
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