Here at Passive Income – it seems we are famous! Apparently my previous post which had the title of Site Build It Scam Review has got a little infamy! I never thought that the “everyone gets 5 minutes of fame” thing applied to me – I guess I was wrong 🙂 Sorry to any one who subscribed to comments early on – bit of email overload I guess!
So for a brief re-cap on those who don’t have an hour to wade through the thousands of words of comments in the early post – the recap is like this:
I Wrote a Review of Site Build It!
I wrote a review, my opinion of Site Build It. No I didn’t spend days and days researching – I was thinking about broadening my readership to people who may have an real business but are scared of the technology involved – I was looking at products that target that group – and Site Build It! came up.
I searched “site build it review” and “site build it scam” – two standard phrases worth remembering if you are considering buying a product: all I got, without exception, was affiliate sales hype pages – not one had a downside, negative point, a possibility of failure, not one didn’t have the financial interest in you clicking on the link and the reviewer getting the commission.
In fact the affiliate program seemed more hyped than the the product – that made me suspicious – if something is good – you don’t need to pushing the affiliate structure to people for them to make money – they are making money following the “system” aren’t they?
Lets be clear – Site Build It is NOT a Scam – its an over-priced, out-dated, cult – read on for details. That of course is just my opinion BTW!
Ken Evoy Responds to My Review
Ken Evoy (not Ken Envoy – people – watch your spelling 🙂 ) is the owner of Site Build It! and he took a moment out of his busy day to post a very long comment rebutting my review, he posted the same comment in the SBI private forum (info to access SBI forum here).
Ken came back and left a few more comments as well. I made six points in my review and in some of them I was wrong – well OK I was wrong in the first point – the site I checked about backside accommodation in the Caribbean which features heavily in the pitch is claimed to owned by a “14-year old girl” – they forgot to mention that this was 6 years ago, the girl, who is Ken Evoy’s daughter, is now 20 and he forgot to transfer the domain into name. But I’m sure she did the site with out any help from Dad at the time…
You can also apparently move your hosting and website to – you are not tied in for life – in fact if you get pissed and cancel they will pro-rata refund promptly to get rid of you.
Ken I am not going to argue you point for point because I don’t need to, you see this is my blog and I set the rules, there is one point which really stood out for me – you claim on behalf of SBI
it’s the only product in the world that enables people to create profitable e-BUSINESSES. It’s NOT about building a Web site. There are thousands of easier ways to do that. The vast majority fail due to the lack of process and tools that SBI! provides. Like I said, there are easier ways to build a site, but no better way to build a BUSINESS. (my emphasis)
There is one part of that is true: a website is not enough to make a business – very,very true. In fact what you seem to teach is for people to aim for traffic and a low Alexa rating. Now neither of those things pay the bills where I live- maybe its different elsewhere? The ONLY thing that makes a business that is successful is a PROFIT. Your supporters quote traffic figures and Alexa ratings as if they were important – they are not!
Site Build It! Cult Trolls Descend
Now Ken didn’t exactly tell his “Rapid Response Group” to come over and spam the blog – but that’s pretty much what happened. Now I have a policy of free speech on the Internet – I do however run Askimet because I got bored of the comments about naked sexy girls and pharmaceuticals – Ken’s comment got caught up in Askimet – I dug him and several other out of my spam queue- that was why there was a delay with their comments appearing.
The curious thing of course was that all your followers were over here sending me comments about why aren’t you publishing negative comments – suggesting that they knew that something wasn’t published. I also don’t live in North America – I don’t approve comments at 4am – I sleep, well, thank for asking.
Now as the furor arrived so did the other side of the story – the people who were not happy customers of SBI – now I didn’t contact any of them – I promoted the post via twitter that was it – but oddly enough I suddenly had several pissed off people, who had bought SBI, entering into the fray.
SEO and Site Build It!
Now at this point I should explain I am not your average blogger. In fact I am not a very good blogger at all, I don’t do the whole social media thing, I don’t develop my professional on-line reputation here. This is my blog and I fucking well do what I please with it. That includes bad language and the odd spelling lapse. However I do know, obviously, quite a lot more about SEO than most of the commentators so if you are going to provide me with 1000’s of words of free content heavily laced with my preferred keywords – do you think I am going to object?
Note to anyone thinking of doing something similar: – up your bandwidth limits – WordPress is a hog! Oh – and I hope you are on decent reseller hosting so that your other sites aren’t at risk of being taken down by a sudden demand on resources from one site.
Honestly compels me to point out that I did delete some posts because I really couldn’t see why my (theoretical) unhappiness, general mental health (lack thereof) and forthcoming (fatal) cancer diagnosis had nothing to do with the keywords I wanted to rank for. Yeah so if that shit bothers you you shouldn’t probably talk about SBI on your blog!
Professionalism and Site Build It!
I certainly do have a problem with my spelling – flipping FireFox doesn’t seem to be doing its auto-spelling thing anymore – if anyone has a technical solution love to hear it!
Just think about it though I have people leaving comments about my mental stability and poor spelling and in their private forum making fun of my name and calling me names I hadn’t heard since I was at school!
Several people called me on the fact that they noticed I had other pages on this site which mention I do not yet make a full-time living on the Internet – therefore arguing that I had no write to criticise something I hadn’t tried and that my own method must be flawed because I was making the squillions they were.
I disagree, I haven’t called out anyone on their so-called income statements, I left that to people who know what they are doing check out: Vic talking about SBI Noobs – to point out what was wrong with the scenario. Vic also has quite a good comment discussion going over on Steve’s Is Site Build It a Scam post. You may want to read Frank, at on-line cash, who has posted about Earning Online Cash with Site Build It In fact read his whole blog if you want to know how to earn cash on-line.
Is Site Build It a Scam?
No, SBI is not a scam – its a lot, lot more dangerous than that – its a fucking cult: a group of people who are in love with Dr Ken Evoy who believe that the sun shines out of, well you know where, who believe the one true way as provided by Ken Evoy and brook no interference or dissent either within their ranks or outside of them.
Why Were There No Negative Reviews of Site Build It
Because your average blogger when faced with the barrage I have had over the last 48 hours would have dropped the whole bloody thing, probably deleted the post and run for the hills. Or their useless hosting would have dropped their site for resource over-runs. They would have believed the threats legal and otherwise.
Some of us are old enough to remember that a mob was something that happened in person, and trust me a real riot or mob is pretty bloody scary – but at least the individuals are there in person and not hiding behind made up emails and generic IP addresses. The online version doesn’t scare us old people!
But that’s OK – that is then and now there are going to be a lot of negative SBI reviews – because you see, I now I appear to have a mob of my own 🙂 Odd that for someone who can’t spell and has a funny name! Around comment or 20 or 30 when we were in the realms of libel and slander and suing, I checked in with a private forum I am a member of, as I am unfamiliar with US law. I got the answers I needed and moved on, to do some work actually – you know the stuff that makes money. A few people saw the post.
I also checked out one of my favourite blogs, How to Make Money with Adsense by Grizz and noticed a reference to SBI, in the comments – I replied in a comment. It was noticed, the rest, as they say, is history.
Grizz has a friend or 3, or 3000 – why because he gives away good information for FREE. Grizz posted a post, about whether is Site Build It a scam. Its only a crappy blogger blog – a free blog – no less – I don’t think anyone will see it :-). Vic having got into the spirit of things as to whether Site Build It Review or even SBI Review or whatever was an over-priced piece of shit – his language not mine! Friar has an interesting political take on free speech and blog trolls Site Buid It Scam Trolls
You see we all share a similar dislike of bullies – and Ken Evoy is just that, a bully. Getting off his mailing list is apparently pretty hard, but the level of hate and vitriol from the true believers, is pretty bloody pathetic. Ken thinks that “cult” applies to companies such as Apple or Google. It may in your lexicon Ken – but it mine, I am firmly associated SBI with Amway, and similar MML schemes – not that I am saying SBI is a MML – but your psychology is:
- There is one way and its the SBI – follow it and you will succeed;
- If you fail its cause you didn’t try hard enough or, God forbid, thought for yourself and tried to make the business fit your skills and personalities;
- Any questions – see 1.
I stopped working for other people’s companies because I didn’t want to work for idiot bosses anymore. I wanted to do my own thing, fail maybe, but win probably – and win on my terms, my way and without any arsehole telling me I have not question his way!
Why There ARE Negative Reviews of Site Build It Now
This is the deal people; there are going to quite a lot of reviews of SBI now – they are real reviews: from people have opinion. But worse than that – they are people who know how to get their posts ranked on page 1 – for -oh I dunno something like Site Build It Review?
Allyn, a new talent in video blogging, posted Blogger Illustrated, Slams SBI – caution language almost as bad as Vic’s and beer…
Terry Freelance Writer and ethical marketer wrote How NOT To Make Money with Site Build It
Splork has a great, under-read blog, and posts lots of useful reviews – but he thought that Site Build It Was A Waste of Money
Now I hadn’t seen Friar’s blog before but after reading Site Build It Review and his take on trolls – I will return!
Archie started a whole blogger blog about Site Build It Scam – nice domain name Archie.
Denise has had personal experience and wrote about how Make Money Online for Free – Not with Site Build It
April had thoughts on Dr Evoy and SiteSell.com
Then there is a Real Site Build It Review on Squidoo – but is $300 – Medic – careful with facts mate!
Wayne got away from Tech and Politics to post a Site Build It Scam
Archie on the other hand just added Site Build It Controversy to his Make Money Online rants!
Site Build It Scam was Christie’s contribution.
Loreecee wrote about her experience with Site Build It Makes Not Much Money
Bruce talks about What is a scam
Simonne writes about the disturbed nature of the Site Build It Review Soap Opera
Max talks about a Site Build It SCAM and re-defines SCAM – entertaining!
Make Money Blogging wrote about Site Build It – Evoy Empire interesting post and great illustrations!
Nick didn’t like the bashing from the trolls in his Reviews of Site Build It
Personal Development for Dummies really doesn’t like either Steve Pavlina or the Site Build It Cult !
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