Here at Passive Income – it seems we are famous! Apparently my previous post which had the title of Site Build It Scam Review has got a little infamy! I never thought that the “everyone gets 5 minutes of fame” thing applied to me – I guess I was wrong 
Sorry to any one who subscribed to comments early on – bit of email overload I guess!
So for a brief re-cap on those who don’t have an hour to wade through the thousands of words of comments in the early post – the recap is like this:
I Wrote a Review of Site Build It!
I wrote a review, my opinion of Site Build It. No I didn’t spend days and days researching – I was thinking about broadening my readership to people who may have an real business but are scared of the technology involved – I was looking at products that target that group – and Site Build It! came up.
I searched “site build it review” and “site build it scam” – two standard phrases worth remembering if you are considering buying a product: all I got, without exception, was affiliate sales hype pages – not one had a downside, negative point, a possibility of failure, not one didn’t have the financial interest in you clicking on the link and the reviewer getting the commission.
In fact the affiliate program seemed more hyped than the the product – that made me suspicious – if something is good – you don’t need to pushing the affiliate structure to people for them to make money – they are making money following the “system” aren’t they?
Lets be clear – Site Build It is NOT a Scam – its an over-priced, out-dated, cult – read on for details. That of course is just my opinion BTW!
Ken Evoy Responds to My Review
Ken Evoy (not Ken Envoy – people – watch your spelling ) is the owner of Site Build It! and he took a moment out of his busy day to post a very long comment rebutting my review, he posted the same comment in the SBI private forum (info to access SBI forum here).
Ken came back and left a few more comments as well. I made six points in my review and in some of them I was wrong – well OK I was wrong in the first point – the site I checked about backside accommodation in the Caribbean which features heavily in the pitch is claimed to owned by a “14-year old girl” – they forgot to mention that this was 6 years ago, the girl, who is Ken Evoy’s daughter, is now 20 and he forgot to transfer the domain into name. But I’m sure she did the site with out any help from Dad at the time…
You can also apparently move your hosting and website to – you are not tied in for life – in fact if you get pissed and cancel they will pro-rata refund promptly to get rid of you.
Ken I am not going to argue you point for point because I don’t need to, you see this is my blog and I set the rules, there is one point which really stood out for me – you claim on behalf of SBI
it’s the only product in the world that enables people to create profitable e-BUSINESSES. It’s NOT about building a Web site. There are thousands of easier ways to do that. The vast majority fail due to the lack of process and tools that SBI! provides. Like I said, there are easier ways to build a site, but no better way to build a BUSINESS. (my emphasis)
There is one part of that is true: a website is not enough to make a business – very,very true. In fact what you seem to teach is for people to aim for traffic and a low Alexa rating. Now neither of those things pay the bills where I live- maybe its different elsewhere? The ONLY thing that makes a business that is successful is a PROFIT. Your supporters quote traffic figures and Alexa ratings as if they were important – they are not!
Site Build It! Cult Trolls Descend
Now Ken didn’t exactly tell his “Rapid Response Group” to come over and spam the blog – but that’s pretty much what happened. Now I have a policy of free speech on the Internet – I do however run Askimet because I got bored of the comments about naked sexy girls and pharmaceuticals – Ken’s comment got caught up in Askimet – I dug him and several other out of my spam queue- that was why there was a delay with their comments appearing.
The curious thing of course was that all your followers were over here sending me comments about why aren’t you publishing negative comments – suggesting that they knew that something wasn’t published. I also don’t live in North America – I don’t approve comments at 4am - I sleep, well, thank for asking.
Now as the furor arrived so did the other side of the story – the people who were not happy customers of SBI – now I didn’t contact any of them – I promoted the post via twitter that was it – but oddly enough I suddenly had several pissed off people, who had bought SBI, entering into the fray.
SEO and Site Build It!
Now at this point I should explain I am not your average blogger. In fact I am not a very good blogger at all, I don’t do the whole social media thing, I don’t develop my professional on-line reputation here. This is my blog and I fucking well do what I please with it. That includes bad language and the odd spelling lapse. However I do know, obviously, quite a lot more about SEO than most of the commentators so if you are going to provide me with 1000’s of words of free content heavily laced with my preferred keywords – do you think I am going to object?
Note to anyone thinking of doing something similar: – up your bandwidth limits – WordPress is a hog! Oh – and I hope you are on decent reseller hosting so that your other sites aren’t at risk of being taken down by a sudden demand on resources from one site.
Honestly compels me to point out that I did delete some posts because I really couldn’t see why my (theoretical) unhappiness, general mental health (lack thereof) and forthcoming (fatal) cancer diagnosis had nothing to do with the keywords I wanted to rank for. Yeah so if that shit bothers you you shouldn’t probably talk about SBI on your blog!
Professionalism and Site Build It!
I certainly do have a problem with my spelling – flipping FireFox doesn’t seem to be doing its auto-spelling thing anymore – if anyone has a technical solution love to hear it!
Just think about it though I have people leaving comments about my mental stability and poor spelling and in their private forum making fun of my name and calling me names I hadn’t heard since I was at school!
Several people called me on the fact that they noticed I had other pages on this site which mention I do not yet make a full-time living on the Internet – therefore arguing that I had no write to criticise something I hadn’t tried and that my own method must be flawed because I was making the squillions they were.
I disagree, I haven’t called out anyone on their so-called income statements, I left that to people who know what they are doing check out: Vic talking about SBI Noobs – to point out what was wrong with the scenario. Vic also has quite a good comment discussion going over on Steve’s Is Site Build It a Scam post. You may want to read Frank, at on-line cash, who has posted about Earning Online Cash with Site Build It In fact read his whole blog if you want to know how to earn cash on-line.
Is Site Build It a Scam?
No, SBI is not a scam – its a lot, lot more dangerous than that – its a fucking cult: a group of people who are in love with Dr Ken Evoy who believe that the sun shines out of, well you know where, who believe the one true way as provided by Ken Evoy and brook no interference or dissent either within their ranks or outside of them.
Why Were There No Negative Reviews of Site Build It
Site Build It Troll - At Rest
Because your average blogger when faced with the barrage I have had over the last 48 hours would have dropped the whole bloody thing, probably deleted the post and run for the hills. Or their useless hosting would have dropped their site for resource over-runs. They would have believed the threats legal and otherwise.
Some of us are old enough to remember that a mob was something that happened in person, and trust me a real riot or mob is pretty bloody scary – but at least the individuals are there in person and not hiding behind made up emails and generic IP addresses. The online version doesn’t scare us old people!
But that’s OK – that is then and now there are going to be a lot of negative SBI reviews – because you see, I now I appear to have a mob of my own Odd that for someone who can’t spell and has a funny name! Around comment or 20 or 30 when we were in the realms of libel and slander and suing, I checked in with a private forum I am a member of, as I am unfamiliar with US law. I got the answers I needed and moved on, to do some work actually – you know the stuff that makes money. A few people saw the post.
I also checked out one of my favourite blogs, How to Make Money with Adsense by Grizz and noticed a reference to SBI, in the comments – I replied in a comment. It was noticed, the rest, as they say, is history.
Grizz has a friend or 3, or 3000 – why because he gives away good information for FREE. Grizz posted a post, about whether is Site Build It a scam. Its only a crappy blogger blog – a free blog – no less – I don’t think anyone will see it . Vic having got into the spirit of things as to whether Site Build It Review or even SBI Review or whatever was an over-priced piece of shit – his language not mine! Friar has an interesting political take on free speech and blog trolls Site Buid It Scam Trolls
You see we all share a similar dislike of bullies – and Ken Evoy is just that, a bully. Getting off his mailing list is apparently pretty hard, but the level of hate and vitriol from the true believers, is pretty bloody pathetic. Ken thinks that “cult” applies to companies such as Apple or Google. It may in your lexicon Ken – but it mine, I am firmly associated SBI with Amway, and similar MML schemes – not that I am saying SBI is a MML – but your psychology is:
- There is one way and its the SBI – follow it and you will succeed;
- If you fail its cause you didn’t try hard enough or, God forbid, thought for yourself and tried to make the business fit your skills and personalities;
- Any questions – see 1.
I stopped working for other people’s companies because I didn’t want to work for idiot bosses anymore. I wanted to do my own thing, fail maybe, but win probably – and win on my terms, my way and without any arsehole telling me I have not question his way!
Why There ARE Negative Reviews of Site Build It Now
This is the deal people; there are going to quite a lot of reviews of SBI now – they are real reviews: from people have opinion. But worse than that – they are people who know how to get their posts ranked on page 1 – for -oh I dunno something like Site Build It Review?
Allyn, a new talent in video blogging, posted Blogger Illustrated, Slams SBI – caution language almost as bad as Vic’s and beer…
Terry Freelance Writer and ethical marketer wrote How NOT To Make Money with Site Build It
Splork has a great, under-read blog, and posts lots of useful reviews – but he thought that Site Build It Was A Waste of Money
Now I hadn’t seen Friar’s blog before but after reading Site Build It Review and his take on trolls – I will return!
Archie started a whole blogger blog about Site Build It Scam - nice domain name Archie.
Denise has had personal experience and wrote about how Make Money Online for Free – Not with Site Build It
April had thoughts on Dr Evoy and SiteSell.com
Then there is a Real Site Build It Review on Squidoo – but is $300 – Medic – careful with facts mate!
Wayne got away from Tech and Politics to post a Site Build It Scam
Archie on the other hand just added Site Build It Controversy to his Make Money Online rants!
Site Build It Scam was Christie’s contribution.
Loreecee wrote about her experience with Site Build It Makes Not Much Money
Bruce talks about What is a scam
Simonne writes about the disturbed nature of the Site Build It Review Soap Opera
Max talks about a Site Build It SCAM and re-defines SCAM – entertaining!
Make Money Blogging wrote about Site Build It – Evoy Empire interesting post and great illustrations!
Nick didn’t like the bashing from the trolls in his Reviews of Site Build It
Personal Development for Dummies really doesn’t like either Steve Pavlina or the Site Build It Cult !
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Lissie, I’m glad you wrote the Site Build It review which started all this. This is how a system that appeared only outdated and rusty proved in fact to be a hive full of soldier-bees ready to protect their queen and programmed to sting anybody who dares to get closer.
Simonne’s last blog post..The Soap Opera of SBI Scam Review
Oops – missed your’s will add as well! We own 6 out of 10 places on “site build it scam review” so far in my datacentre!
Hey Lis – I just left a comment on your original post and now here you are starting all over again with a second post ! Is there no end to your energy ? I’m totally drained after reading all those comments and looking at videos and listening to audios – I should get a life ! Steve Pavlina gone over to the dark side ? What is the world coming to ? Steve Pavlina is what we refer to in the trade as a solipsist. An interesting guy and generally I would agree with his solpsistic view of ‘life’ but being a solipsist why is he so interested in making money ? All very odd ! Fortunately I am a solipsist too so I know that Steve Pavlina does not really exist. TTFN – VicW
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LOL
Took a look at the tirade on the other post – you are getting as bad as me
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Way to go girl. I have always told you guys that you are not alone
Hi Lis,
I am checking all the sites that address this Site Build It Scam and Honest Reviews. We will over take all their bull on the first pages of Google for all the terms associated with this.
We will even own Site Build It on Google.
Denise’s last blog post..Make Money Online Free – Not With Site Build It
@ MMOB(YWC) – askimet is not your friend! Tired yeah – a little but its quite easy to right 2000 words when you are really pissed off -I thought I should contribute something as the comments on the previous post so outweighed my own, poorly spelled attempt at a review LOL
@Mark – careful this place is BAD neighbourhood you know – full of internet marketers and trolls LOL. There can be bad language and typos too. I am delighted to be considered in the same breath as your ranting crazy self!
@Vic find myself humming -you’re never walk alone – note to self -definitly time to go to bed LMAO!
@Denise We used to have a political party in New Zealand called the Barmy Army – I feel that I have this rag-tag army of crazy people behind me at the moment – its a nice feeling – but I am now going to bed – nite guys!
Lis girl, you inspired me to write the site build it SCAM protocol.
Let me know what you think.
@Max – I am loving SCAM – are you old enough to remember the Man from UNCLE – they would have understood SCAM – I’ll add you to the list!
I did not realize that you will have a second post about this issue. I think instant fame is inevitable when we post opinions about a sensitive issue.
However, I would rather consider this issue as a viral marketing strategy. Unfortunately, not a good one for SBI and Ken. He and his group should be able to defend their site very well.
Thanks.
Rich’s last blog post..Site Build It Scam Issue: Viral Marketing in the Making?
@Rich – I am not really going for fame just a double-indexing in Google – and yes I had a thing or two to say – that’s the advantage of this blog – don’t have to be keyword focussed its all over the place!
Hi again Lis,
Well I put up my post and I entitled it SBI! – The Evoy Empire
So if you are going to bed then good night – but if you are just getting up then good morning !
VicW
Make Money Online Blogging (Yes We Can !)’s last blog post..SBI! The Evoy Empire
Thanks Make Money – an interesting post and I’ll be back to read some real posts LOL
a new blog? a stroke of genius lis. always, leave on the high note.
in personal relationships it’s the same. you leave FIRST!
ok, now back to the fun stuff.
i was just in the sbi forums. thinking, we can’t post there (wouldn’t we love to?), but, they’re scared shitless to post in your blogs now. lol
they’re comparing us to characters in the movie “Deliverance”, saying all we need is dueling banjos.
Well, i guess they forgot what us toothless, inbred, hillbillies did to them in the woods, or maybe they just miss it!
do you miss it kenny boy? do you miss it natasha? um huh, and do you really miss it boris? come on baby be honest.
squeal piggies, squeal. we love to hear you squeal.
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@X-SBIer – I guess we aren’t the good guys right LOL – will try to find appropirate video for next post! I like the duelling banjos!
It’s good to see that there are more than just sales affiliate pages talking about SBI on top of the SERPS now. I threw you one more link to help push you to the top. I hope it helps keep things balanced for the long term.
Personal Development for Dummies™’s last blog post..Site Build It Vs. Steve Pavlina: Which Is the Scarier Cult?
@PD for Dummies – thanks – you opened my eyes to Steve Pavlina too.
Hey Lis,
Good to see that there are a few more comments on the blog about sbi, on this post and the other site build it review.
Been keeping an eye on things from when you posted in the forum and think that those guys really don’t realise what they were getting themselves into.
Had a nosy around the site build it forums and some people do say some funny things, lol.
Lets see what the next day or so brings – no.1 for site build it would be a good place to be, and I think we know who’s gonna get there
.
Nick’s last blog post..Review of Site Build It – The Bashing
There is of course only one position to be in for keywords – #1 generally works!
LOL You are getting famous Lisse, good luck to you
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Hi Misha – nice to see you – infamous I think is the term you are looking for !
Methinks I will start my own cult following you Lissie! As I have said before, you are one of the people that I trust to give me the real skinny on things, and I applaud you as a person and a writer ( and BTW spelling mistakes don’t disqualify you from being a writer lady!) You are fine just the way you are and those bullies better get off your back! They should get back to making their mega millions at Site Build!
(And BTW the way Lissie the expletives in your post made me laugh. You made my day!)
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@Dorsi you are way too smart to be cult follower! I try to keep it clean on 3rd party sites like hubpages – but this is my corner of the internet and language will to my standards! Spelling was only formalised around 300 years – Shakespeare couldn’t spell – I find that a good model to follow! The irony of this is purely delightful – they are hung by their own petard quite literally!
BTW Askimet doesn’t like you – you were in spam
hiya,
if i don’t use SBI to start a website, can you tell me what I should use instead???
thanks very much
dave
@Dave – no I can’t I have no idea why you want to start a website – figure out what your site is for and start reading – all the links are here!
Hi Lis,
Looks like you’re kicked over a bit of a hornets nest here.
I think you’re mostly seeing the natural reaction and protests protests of people defending something on which they have invested time and money.
This is similar to the very vocal response by Renegade University members when I complained about their members spamming Hubpages some months ago. Not many of them addressed the issue I raised, but I got plenty of personal advice about my intelligence, sanity, and mental state
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I’ve never used SBI, but have been aware of it for a while. Sorry I can’t really agree that it’s a scam. It’s a package that does many things that can now be done using other methods. Like all things, the value of SBI is in the eye of the beholder.
I’ll be interested to see where this goes.
Cheers, Eric G.
Eric Graudins’s last blog post..CHOP OFF your useless WWW Appendix
Eric – I thought of you and the Renegrade Uni mob. I don’t think its natural to react by threatening the writer with cancer and a bad life! I really do not like mobs of fanatics, but truely didn’t expect to find one, I can understand it on a religious blog or a politics blogs – but Site Build It is just supposed to be a system to build a business.
Where this is going is that the next desperate noob who wants a website to make money will find some real reviews from independent people who are describing a larger picture. I literally found nothing but cut and paste affiliate crap when I searched “site build it review” and “site build it scam” – that made me suspicious – no system is perfect and none works for everyone who buys it!
Do you have a video of banjo playing – I need one – duelling banjos I think its called!
Oh, forgot to mention:
I’m now off to practice on my banjo.
And in X-SBIer’s honour, I’ll start off my session with “Dueling Banjos”
Eric G.
Eric Graudins’s last blog post..CHOP OFF your useless WWW Appendix
Dang Lissie, I love you already
You say what you want and don’t let the bullies get you down.
You said a mouthful when you said the name Griz. He got the minions on the run with his post and that is how I found you. Some of us are loyal “followers” of the old bear follow wherever he tell us to go.
What I don’t understand with people in general is this. Is it SO wrong to have an opinion? That is basically all you did and you get blasted for it? Idiots who hide behind computer monitors get on my nerves.
I say, good for you. Keep sharing your opinion and don’t let those trolls scare you off.
And, I just added a new word to my vocab – SQUILLIONS – so thanks! Wait, is that more than a gazillion or less than a buzillion.
The Computer Lady – I believe that a squillion is a sufficient income to keep me in all the gins/resorts/young men that I require.. A gazillion adds in the toys and a buzillion includes the 3 or 4 holdiay homes.
But I could be wrong – you shouldn’t believe everything you read on the interenet!
@lis:
quote”I can understand it on a religious blog or a politics blogs”
But that’s my point – People with a financial interest in something often respond with religious fervour if you question it. I recall having interesting conversations with people who were Amway representatives and wanted to “show me the business”.
Duelling banjos clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyKvD-4IxOY
@dave:
If you want to start a site I’d recommend self hosted Wordpress. Pay a visit to my site, search for “Wordpress”, to discover why.
Eric Graudins’s last blog post..CHOP OFF your useless WWW Appendix
Lis,
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Great job on the update post. I was concerned with some of the accuracies in your previous post and you put that to rest. Shows your an honorable person. Hope you enjoyed your 5 minutes of fame.. May it last longer and increase your wallet to compensate for the bandwidth.
-Dennis
DennisJr’s last blog post..Ken Evoy Defends Site Build it as a Scam
Wonder where all the SBI supports went? Guess when Ken called off the hounds they all listened obediently. He should write a “How to train attack affiliates” ebook. LOL
Newbie Profits’s last blog post..Avoid Site Build It
hi liz,
i think what you REALLY want is a
BRAZILLION.
thanks to you and the “ken manson family”, we’re having a ball!
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sorry LIS,
i know better. i was just trapped in ZZZZ’s with Brazillion.
Wow … so much to try and unravel and keep score (nearly impossible me thinks
Hmmm let’s see ….
We have the SBI Trolls …. The Renegade Uni(-bombers?)
So … now here do we have the Hub-dingers (sorry couldn’t resist) showing up
Thanks for making me smile Lis
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conspicuously absent from this fray has been debs seeber (debtsteps.com), the “queen bee” of sbi, a moderator with over 26.000 posts. (she’s not as dumb as she looks).
orginally brought on by ken as “the enforcer” she has apparently mellowed in her fat old age.
you are the “greatest” debs.
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I gave you some backlink love thanks to the Grizz with an article about the trolls. Keep up the good work Liz.
Nick’s last blog post..Site Build It: The Scam
Looks like he trawling the net for bad reviews.
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@Eric – nice pitch – you’re welcome
@Dennis – it was never really about fame but I feel confident that I dominate my chosen keyword !
@Newbie the hounds were called off – Ken woke up to the fact that his foot was sore from being shot. Though I am still getting the odd funny supporter comment on the original post – I am leaving it to Grizz and Vic to respond – they after really know how to make money
@Jim – score – I wrote this 2000+ word post because I was starting to lose the chain of events – and I’m in the box seat LOL. I think the really interesting thing is that his mob all write the same thing, in grammatically correct English. My “mob” all have their own opinions – wow maybe they think for themselves?
@Nick thanks
@Bihar – possibly – I wrote the post and went to bed – I woke up to chaos! This blog gets indexed quicky – so its possible I went straight to page 2 of the search results – more likely he uses google alerts – useful tool to track stuff – like your company’s name
Hi Lis.
Only 40 comments ! What’s gone wrong ? I was so shocked by events I felt the need to create a site devoted to Site Build It reviews ! Grey Brother
@ Site Build It Review Site – Cool site – wonder what made you think of that
! The party continues on the early post – we are at 159 comments and counting – I feel a bit like the spectator – the comments have become self-answering LMAO!
Hey Liz,
I gave you a link a few days ago – hope it helped. Have been reading all the comments with much amusement. You certainly have got yourself a lot of attention lately
Anyway just wanted to drop in and say hi,
Another aussie,
Tracey
Tracey’s last blog post..Fake Scam Product Reviews
I also think he might be using google alerts. As far as SBI goes, I assume it might be OK for people with little knowledge of things like wordpress and other ways of making blogs and websites. But its definatetly expensive.
Bihar’s last blog post..anil left a comment for ‘Shweta’
“The party continues on the early post – we are at 159 comments and counting – I feel a bit like the spectator – the comments have become self-answering LMAO!”
Write a bunch of hogwash and get tons of attention for it, isn’t life just great? Sad.
I trust Ken Evoy and Steve Pavlina. You’re not in the same league and you’re riding on the back of their success.
Keep milking it, it won’t last.
Integrity, beauty and truth wins out every time.
I trust your readers will check their facts before they waste their time on your advice. I hope so at least.
@Hi Tracey and welcome
@Bihar – just a little expensive
@ Marius – you are kinda missing the point totally! Just read this great opinion piece on Steve Pavlina and the Law of Attraction – Im sure you’ll enjoy it. Over 200 comments now
@Lis: I think the law of attraction is complete BS as well. It’s New Age mysticism for muddy-headed people who none-the-less lack the discipline and intellectual honesty to join an organized religion. Either be a Materialist through and through and reject Teh Force (and all it’s various names), or join a real organized religion that at least imposes some discipline on your urges regarding drugs, adultery, etc. To be half materialist and half magician (e.g. “manifesting” money from mere thought like alchemists of yore turning lead into gold)–is to be wholly whacked.
Yo, Yo, Jomamma,
wassup baybee?
where did you come from? has the “queen bee” taken charge of cleaning up Fearless Leader’s fiasco?
ken has culled his 100,000 affiliates and found one who wasn’t educated with a banana and an innertube.
ok, let’s see, City College New York, pre-law and you were a member of the debate team. how’m i doing?
you passed out in the bangbus one night and woke up pregnant by god knows who.
disgusted with yourself, you got a tattoo and a crew-cut, started wearing camouflage and jungle boots, and riding a Harley (maryann harley).
damn, 100,000 sbi sites and all you and brain-damaged paul can use as argument is 2 (TWO) stupid, shit sites.
god, how much is ken paying you save his sorry ass. it can’t be done. ken and sbi have become a joke, and that’s almost impossible to recover from. once you’re a joke, no one will take you seriously again.
jeez, ken you look a mess! you need a shave,… and get some sleep. And take those sunglasses off, you’re at work and among your fiends. “Wah, Wha, who’s gonna pay for my new home in Anguilla.”
kenny boy, you’ve been screwing the pooch for a long time. but now, WE’VE GOT PHOTOS!
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lissie you are officially #1 for site build it scam on google. GRATS!!
@yourmom
Do you honestly believe that organized religion “imposes some discipline on your urges regarding drugs, adultery, etc.????”
That just shows that you have no critical thinking skills. No wonder what people are telling you here isn’t sinking in!
Atheists have the lowest percentage of the prison population and have the lowest divorce rates. Why? Because they believe they alone are responsible for their actions. Organized religions give people a cop out (the devil made them do it, all humans sin) and also an easy way to make it all better (just repent and all is well.)
SBI may not be an outright scam but it is seriously taking advantage of people. I wonder if Ken considers himself a good Christian?
Another “Hub-dinger” here (love that, Jim)! And love the excitement, Lis – congrats on the stir
I’m brainstorming a blog post to give you some link-love!
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Hi Lis
Put up a hub with ‘Site build It Review’ as anchor text. Now I really should stop reading all the comments and do some work!
Whoa, Lissie, nice work, girl. I couldn’t sleep tonight so I thought I’d check out your blog (got your twitter direct). I remember SiteBuildIt was pretty much my first introduction to the world of affiliate marketing. I printed the free affiliate masters guide and read it (or tried to, it’s pretty dry reading) out on my patio on a warm summer day.
I’d been involved with MLM in the 80s and some of the marketing felt that way. Plus, at the time, I didn’t have the money to invest, I was learning and wanted to check stuff out on my own. I’m glad I have, I like the sites I’ve created and over the past 4 years I’ve learned a great deal. I’m pretty sure I would have missed out on all that if I’d bought a package like this (and then worried about selling the package itself to get a downline…)
Anyway, good for the people who’ve done well with it. To each their own.
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Hi,
I dont think SBI is a scam.It provides real value.
But i agree the $300 price tag is very high.
Thanks for the post though.
Even Steve Pavlina says, you dont need SBI if you can provide real value .
He himself uses Go Daddy.com.
If you can afford that much amount a year then go for it.Especially if you are in a job and are very busy to learn something which is easily available for free or at less cost.
Thanks Lis, for courageously taking on the SBI goons! I’m so glad more people are speaking out about this. SBI is BS!!
I wrote a very good (IMO) fair and accurate review. It’s quite in-depth and very critical. Anyone considering SBI should read it: A Negative Review Of Site Build It (SBI)
Toban’s last blog post..How To Set Up A Website
Thanks for commenting everyone – this thing has got waay bigger than I ever thought it would LOL. Anyone reading this who wants to see a really good well balanced review of Site build it should head over to Toban’s site – in the comment above – nice work Toban!
Hi Lis. I found your blog through Hubpages, and I must say that I admire your determination and honesty. I enjoyed reading this article and have subscribed to your blog because I want to read more about you. I like the originality and how you allow yourself to use the ocassional “bad words” whenever you see fit.
Please feel free not to publish this content, if you think, since it is not 100% related to this actual post. Sorry, I just could not find a contact me link.
I am looking forward to reading more, Guillermo.
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these half assed reviews rock.
love your work lis. u sound like u know what ur talking about but u really don’t. thats the beauty of publishing on the net, u can say what u want, truth be damned. i love it.
i have 2 sites that kick some serious ass thanks to sbi. i’m thinking of taking some of the concept and creating a new non sbi- only because the tech is a bit limited for my needs.
hopefully people will believe your bullshit and not go there so no one will copy my site. im sick of the upcoming sbi’ers who like to copy site concepts it’s so hard to stay ahead of the curve these days. i used to pay it forward in the forums but now i keep all my ideas to myself – i am all about me now.
ok thanks again.
i haven’t been this excited since my first $5000+ month.
Jeeze h-girl its taken you how long to figure out to keep quiet about your niches? Fortunately most SBIers probably don’t know to google for “my keyword” +”powered by site build it” – to see their “local” competition LMAO
Hi all!
I’m working on a list of things I’ll need to get started with a niche website if I don’t go with SBI for $299.
Is there anything else that I should add?
Hosting (1 year)…………………..$60
1 domain (1 year)………………….$96
Keyword Elite…………………….$176
Market Samurai……………………$149
SEO Quake………………………..FREE
Wordpress………………………..FREE
TOTAL: $481
David your figures are a little off
Hosting $60
Domain: .com – standard price $9.99 – you can usually get them for $7.49, you can get a .info for 0.99c you can use a blogger blog for free -those are annual figures, prices as at godaddy
You don’t need Keyword Elite AND Market Samurai – if you can afford one buy Market Samurai its cheaper and does more, if you can’t afford it use the free tools available
Minimum spend to get started : FREE (blogger plus using free tools)
Maximum spend to get started 60+149+9.99 = $220
The only recurring part of that is the domain registration ($9.99 or less)
If you buy more domains your hosting costs will cover those as well in the short-term -ideally you will want a reseller account which cost more but you don’t need one to start.
A host like hostgator provide one button installs for WordPress
You might also want to track your stats Google Analytics or statcounter – both free
You will probably need an ftp program to upload new themes etc for WordPress – I use and recommend filezilla – its free to
If you want to create pdf’s for your website for any reason – use OpenOffice – does what Micorsoft Office does – but its free
Hope this helps
@Lis – Thanks for the advice. It did help.
I’m off to read the blogs and perform my due diligence. This does look like the better way to go, but I’m trying to stay objective.
Shhh… Lis. Don’t tell them anything on how to protect themselves. Dr. Ken is all the protection they need!!
Oh BTW- for “Site Build It Review”
Vic is #4
Grizz is #8
You are #12
All in a span of less than a week.
The power of SEO…
Thai’s last blog post..Site Build It? Forget It!!
Lissie, Lissie
I am away for a few days and all hell breaks loose.
You know I would have rode to your rescue but my donkey threw a shoe.
The funny thing is I have been at the neurologists for the last few days and while I was there, there were all these people walking around with their gowns on back to front, their privates hanging out, and dibbling.
I did’nt take much notice of the twenty or so spit soaked patients until one of them pissed on my bed, while shouting Ken, Ken, SBI, SBI. I told him i’d give him SBI, I picked up my bedpan and smashed him in the face, “Suck Bedpan Imbred” I said.
Now thats the only time SBI is worth saying.
Take care
John
Hi John Tighe – I figured you were doing something more important! Well at least you have lots of free bedtime reading – for months! Hope you are feeling better! I will keep eye out for donkey!
Hey Lis, I got banned from Pavlina’s forums for my heresy. I thought that was funny, since I didn’t write anything that was ban-worthy. I guess he’s just following SBI’s strict ‘no criticism’ policy!
Toban’s last blog post..How To Set Up A Website
@Toban – that is complete crap – its been an eyeopener this concept of controlling forums for the owners own purposes – I had never realised how censored the internet really is!
Hey Lis,
You’re a Steve Pavlina fan I believe – I just got this comment on my blog from Toban (who wrote a negative review about SBI and started a thread criticising SBI on Steve Pavlina’s forum) –
“It looks like Pavlina wasn’t too happy about me criticizing SBI on his forums. I got banned, and considering what I wrote, it hardly seems fair. Looks like more he’s interested in protecting his SBI revenues…”
Lol – terrible I know but it makes me laugh – I was expecting that to happen – I’m only suprised it didn’t happen sooner !
Site Build It Review Site’s last blog post..Site Build It Review Update
@SBIRS – I kinda gone right off Pavlina – I read that forum thread on his site – seemed pretty reasonable to me as did your review – where there is smoke…
“I did’nt take much notice of the twenty or so spit soaked patients until one of them pissed on my bed, while shouting Ken, Ken, SBI, SBI. I told him i’d give him SBI, I picked up my bedpan and smashed him in the face, “Suck Bedpan Imbred” I said.”
Not only did I spit my coffee all over my desk at work, raising more than a few eyebrows, I think I peed a little!! Funniest comment on the internet!
…and thanks Lis for providing me with such good reading material over the last few days. Gets me through my working day
hey lis,
god you’ve disappeared! now, i’m going through “withdrawal” (coitus interruptus).
oh shit, don’t tell me you’re buying into dr. ken’s psycho bullshit.
“imma gonna sue ya” and, “imma gonna sue franqui and brears, and anybody that sez shit agin me”. LMFAO!!!!
don’t go off the air now, this is history!
let him bring it on! can you imagine the “shit-storm”?
oh yeah! you’re gonna be famous dr. ken, when every blogger on the net climbs onto your funky ass.
you’ll be in the Guinness Book as “That Guy” who took 1 million dicks in his A$$ at one time. it will definitely make number one on YouPorn. i can’t wait.
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@We Have a Winner – I’m not disagreeing with John Tighe has shown an hitherto hidden talent for comedy – its a Brit thing I think. Sorry about the keyboard – actually let me state here quite clearly that I am taking absolutely no responsibility for any keyboards or loss of drinks caused by reading my blog at work, or any other circumstance!
@Im a junkie – nope I must admit I think that even if I “saw the light” – I doubt that Dr Ken would be accepting into the SBI “club” after this little entertainment! In fact I was off making some money -sorry about that !
an interesting post on sbi forums with ken defending his sorry ass:
http://forums.sitesell.com/viewtopic.php?p=616354&highlight=#616354
oh, bye the way, this “jim” @ jugglenow.com is one of ken’s original “ass-kissers” and “jackbooted” moderators. as you can see, he’s from harlan co. kentucky, home of the orignal inbred hillybillies.
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I’m just trying to figure out the double-index thing.
This post referred back to the first post, but I didn’t see where the first post referred to the 2nd post.
Please explain.
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this is ken’s original post when setting up SBI’s Rapid Response Team.
http://forums.sitesell.com/viewtopic.php?t=30336
and lis, there are sbi’ers calling you a coward and hypocrite for not posting the “hope you get cancer” post. how stupid are they???
i think you should reconsider and post it. “Let all the evil in eggs hatch out!”
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@X-SBier and CD rates askimet doesn’t like either of you!
@CD rates – I’m an idiot -I didn’t do it right originally – here is Grizz’s explanation http://makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.com/2009/03/site-build-it-lessons-learned.html
Now, I see. But won’t google just consider that a reciprocal link and not really count it that much?
I’m not sure why Askimet doesn’t like me. I don’t even have a mailing list to send spam. It shouldn’t be that the email address doesn’t match the domain, because people do that all of the time. Maybe it is the keyword phrase in the name, but others do that as well. Although the domain my email is on had some problems a long while back. For an experiment I used a different email. Let me know if it still lands in Askimet.
Good work by the way.
CD Rates Blog’s last blog post..Delaware (DE) Banks CD Rates
@CD maybe because its an internal link – I dunno? Still Askimet hates you – it could be the blog or the IP as well as the email address – ask for reinclusion – get some other friends to dig you out first – seems to work!
Hi,
Have been looking at all of this info. and am overwhelmed. I was considering SBI! but am glad to have come across the review and other options for making money from a content/blog structure. I have one big question:
Considering I know nearly nothing about the technical side of constructing and maintaining sites and the IM involved in making them profitable, how long would it take to put together an “essentials” toolbox, learn some basics and start experimenting?
It seems to me that SBI! might save an inexperienced person time. (probably not money and definitely not in the long run with recurring fees and $$ for options etc.)
Could it be worth it to “shorten the learning curve” and get a working site up quickly, then gain IM experience gradually and quit SBI! when one outgrows it?
Or would it be better to dig in and bootstrap from the get-go?
Thanks for any input,
Kelly
Hi Kelly: Good on you for asking smart questions.
As you see from some of my posts, I tried SBI to shorten the learning curve and ended up losing time. By accident or by design, their system is set up to keep members dependent on it. Their terminology is different than what’s generally used in the non-SBI internet marketing world, so if you decide to leave, you have to learn a whole new language in order to communicate with the people who can teach you something useful.
Other things to be careful of: SBI says that if you don’t use their system, you’ll have to learn to write HTML code. That might have been true in 2004, but in reality, most of us don’t touch HTML other than some basic commands like bold, header tags, blockquotes, and hyperlinks that you can learn in fifteen minutes. Most of us use either Wordpress.org on a host that offers unlimited domains, or free Blogger blogs. Although these sites are set up as blogs, they can be made to look like static HTML pages and have the advantage of fill-in-the-blank forms and readily available free templates. The fact that SBI doesn’t even acknowledge WordPress or Blogger as a viable option, combined with Ken Evoy’s well-known disdain for SEO, really turned me off to them after I got out and saw the big picture of internet marketing and how it changes literally from week to week.
I’ve been teaching a friend to set up a one-page static site on Blogger to sell a single affiliate product with some cheap (<50cent) Adwords advertising to draw traffic while she’s waiting for her Google traffic to kick in. The first one took her five hours. The rest of them will take her fifteen minutes each. I have one that makes me $100 a month for $25 a month worth of Adwords PPC ads. Ten more of them is $$750 a month net profit. She’s in art school, so the money is most welcome. If the product converts like mine does, then she’ll be earning money the same week she puts up the site, although she’ll have to wait 60 days to get paid.
This is the reality of how things happen in internet business. Unless you have tons of money to spend or started in 2003, you read and learn, put up a small site, see what works, tweak and improve it, make a little money, and move on to the next one. There’s tons of room for growth and improvement (and profit) if you’re a quick study. I love doing this more than any work I’ve ever done, and I’ve had a lot of jobs with way more social status.
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Hi Kelly, thanks for the questions. I have some questions for you: – you don’t need to answer them in public- but you do need to think about them:
* why do you want a site/s – is just for fun, learn some new skills earn extra money?
* if earning extra money: do you need to earn money now e.g. you just lost your job or do you have a timeframe – say 6-12 months?
* do you want a second income – few hundreds a month or do you want to replace a job’s income?
* how much money do you have to invest up front – can you afford to lose that investment?
Now look at your skill sets: which of the following skills do you already have/ know you could acquire if you wanted to/know you would struggle with:
* can you set up a blogger blog? – go and setup one – its free, try it for practice.
* do you know how to sell things in the real world? Do you have a feel for what people are buying ?
* have you run your own business before – do you know how to motivate yourself and be your own boss
You say you feel overwhelmed – I am not at all surprised – so is everyone else when they start down this line. Most give up or burn out, or max out the credit card chasing idea after idea. That’s where Ken Evoy’s product is smart – he says – trust me, follow my way – you will win! You don’t have to think – its discouraged really – just do what I tell you. That’s attractive if you are suffering from information over-load.
I worried about information overload when I first go into this game – I gave myself 3 months to make it – LOL – I had no idea! I have had a couple of previous careers -both took 2/3 years full-time study at college/university – why would making money online take me any less time especially though I had no fear of technology I had no idea of how to work for myself, or marketing! Trust me if your only problem is the technology you are are way ahead of where I started!
To me that most important thing you can lose is time – most of us don’t know how to make any more of it! Not all sites make money – this is not an exact science so to me the biggest negative with SBI for my business model is that they charge $300 /site – I want around 150 sites- the model clearly wouldn’t work if you want more than one or two sites. There is enough comment back and forth on my original post to see that moving away from SBI means quite a lot of rebuilding and relearning – so you don’t just lose the upfront cost you lose that time as well…
IF you decide to try out SBI please use my friend’s splork’s affiliate link in this post http://lostballinhighweeds.com/site-build-it-is-a-waste-of-money/ I believe you can bail in the first 30 days and with no obligation (double check that).
I have also added a banner at the bottom of the post for a product called StoreStacker – it won’t build the business for you – but it may take some of the learning curve out if you are nervous about adding eBay, Amazon, affiliate links, RSS feeds etc etc Its not free – but you can can get it for a $1 up front and then have 2 weeks to cancel before the main payment goes thru. You’ll need your own domain name and hosting but a dot info domain is currently 0.99c and hosting we’ve discussed before! Again the cost of the software is one time and does not restrict you to how many sites you can build.
IF you don’t understand how to figure out what people want to buy online then I highly recommend at least viewing the videos I referenced here – http://lissowerbutts.com/whats-a-buying-keyword/ they are well done and understandable.
Most important though figure out what your goals/business plan is up front and then you will have a blueprint – you might have to change it along the way – but you will have some structure
@Lorecee – we cross-posted – hadn’t seen your answer before I posted mine – not that some people will believe me! You make some valid points from someone who was a member of SBI for some time!
Kelly got some stuff to think about between our 2 comments I think
@CD Rates and the reciporcal link to get the double listing. I had the double listing within 24 hours having got for the linking right – only showing when you search for the exact anchored term “site build it scam” – I suspect Google does discount the link – but the display of 2 posts has got to do with Google seeing the 2 as closely related – and for the visitor -it takes up more screen real estate so more likely to click surely?
While SBI doesn’t have the greatest templates, and may be a bit clunky/ outdated in some ways, I do believe it is a great way for those new to the web and to website building to learn how to make money online through niche sites.
There are many website owners who went from not knowing what SEO meant to running profitable sites and earning an online income thanks to the SBI program. SO I don’t think it can be called a scam.
I started my very first site using SBI and it runs on SBI to this day. I now also use HostGator and WordPress and html templates for a variety of niche sites I run, but that’s because I’ve taken the time to learn some basic html, ftp, etc etc.
I do credit the information I learned at SBI with my success on other online ventures, as it was a in-depth course in SEO, keywords, pre-selling, etc.
The $300/ year is just $25 a month. For the time and effort saved for a beginner, not to mention the wealth of help available on the forums, I think it is well worth it for many.
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Wow, thanks for all the thoughtful replies, and the time you all took to write them. I think each one is very valuable and will help me to make my ultimate decision.
@Lorecee – that’s what I was thinking re: losing time by having to re-learn techniques and transfer everything to another host. it seems possibilities are infinite outside of SBI!, and with low start-up costs. As I have learned from you and Lis, SBI! seems to limit your growth. That would definitely be a long-term problem for me. However, my short-term problem is time, and while I am a quick study (usually), I’m worried I will overlook something key in my haste. So, I guess I just answered my own question (with your help!): if I am going to do it on my own, I need enough time to learn the basics thoroughly and start the trial-and-error process of attracting enough profitable traffic to make it work. And am I right in saying you have more than one niche site? So, it is also an exercise in hit-and-miss niche site profitability. But, as you and Lis explained, with such low domain hosting, one can afford to “hit” sometimes and “miss” others? – something not true with SBI! It seems that if you goof on the concept, (ie. one that does not monetize well online) then you are stuck with it.
Like learning any new skill – you can’t just academically absorb the knowledge – you have to get out and try it as well! We can all read about how to paint an oil painting- but I for one know that if I tried my first 1 or 10 attempts would be horrible! So yes having your first attempt sort totally committed to because of the cost is a pretty big disadvantage …
@Lis
Very good questions for me, very insightful. I don’t mind answering them online, especially if it will help someone else to make a decision.
* Why do I want a site – fun, new skills, extra money? Well, all of the above, really. I also like to write, so producing written content for the web could be a creative outlet, too. But I’m looking for something a little more than a hobby. (Maybe a hobbby with benefits?) Yes, I’d like to translate my skills into profit, which brings me to your next question.
* Earning extra money – when and how much? I think a realistic goal would be roughly 6 – 12 months to get a good idea of the output/income ratio. How much? Well, let’s say if I am only making $10/month on three websites after a year of hard work, I might be a little frustrated.
* A second income or a “job salary”? Hmm… well, definitely a second/extra income. I doubt I would ever quit my job. Firstly, because I enjoy it and, secondly, because I believe it would truly provide a ton of fresh content for a (heretofore imagined) niche market. One more thought: I have three months free (maybe more) every year that I could use to further develop my online projects.
* How much can I afford to invest (and lose) up front? I was thinking about $300.
* Can I set up a blogger blog? I don’t know but I will go and find out.
* Can you sell in the real world? Yes, I have held numerous sales positions, and even some with online components.
* Have I run my own business/worked for myself? No and yes. I basically work for myself now, but would not call myself a true entrepreneur, maybe more a freelance professional. Really, the only person who motivates me is myself. However, I know little about the ins-and-outs of investment and profit. I’m worried I won’t know how or where to spend my money and efforts to give myself the best chance of success.
I watched the Market Samurai videos, and you are right, they are very informative. It seems like a great way to get going with the right keywords. I am working on a business plan with rough goals and have come up with two seemingly viable routes. I will keep working out the details though, until one wins favor over the other.
Thanks again for your input, and if you have any more ideas or comments, they are welcome!!
@Kelly: if you snoop around on Courtney Tuttle’s site, you’ll find his one-on-one consulting service. It’s expensive (more than SBI), but he’ll bring order to the chaos of all the IM information out there and personally evaluate all of your sites as you create them. I’m not an affiliate or anything, but he helped me (for free) when I was starting out, and I want to pay it forward. Be careful on Warrior Forum–there’s a lot of misinformation. My two favorite members are TommyGadget and bgmacaw. You can find their posts using advanced search.
Yes, I have numerous niche sites (5-30 pages) working AdSense, a few one-page affiliate sites (will have more when I finish the AdSense sites), and two authority sites to help my smaller sites.
I’ve been fascinated by the meta aspect of the SBI war that’s played out here. The internet business model that Ken Evoy preaches involves building long-term sales relationships with returning social traffic, although that traffic may initially come in through Google. Griz, Vic, and Court (and me, and Lis) prefer to draw one-time Google traffic and make sure it doesn’t leave our sites without making us money. About 50 percent of the people on Warrior Forum are following some variation of Ken’s model. Another 45 percent don’t know WTF they’re doing, and the rest are doing what we’re doing.
Ken says our sites are polluting the internet because they’re only intended to make money, not provide a quality visitor experience. We believe that a quality visitor experience is in the eye of the visitor–if he got what he was looking for, that’s quality. Is a credit card site with 100 highly competitive offers and no content a quality visitor experience? If you’re looking for a credit card, of course it is.
The internet started out as a way for academics to exchange knowledge. When it became more commercial, there was a lot of complaining from those who would like it to be more like a library, but libraries don’t pay for themselves. While Google publicly states that it likes rich content, they also know that their $2 billion a year AdSense program (which pays for that nice free search engine we all use) pays best on sites that don’t provide quality content. It’s a fundamental disconnect that they all know but don’t like to talk about.
What does all this meta mean to you? Think mass appeal when you’re choosing sites, and go with established internet business models like AdSense and affiliate sales. Don’t try to do something new and different–this is a numbers game. Pitch your sites to visitors who are looking to buy something and then go ride their motorcycle, not people without a life (like us, LOL) who hang around in forums and on Twitter all day.
If you need proof that social traffic doesn’t pay, take a look at Griz’s March 27 beginners blog post, where his AdSense income for one week is $900 and his social traffic from the Digital Point forum paid a whopping $12.
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I remember the first time one of my hubs got stumbled and I had a flood of stumble traffic – Id only ever had 5 or 10 visitors a day – suddenly within 24 hours I had 700+ I was so excited I stayed up to 4am hitting the refresh button on the stats – I couldn’t believe I had so many visitors – and I made, a grand total – of around 5c from memory LOL
I guess for me I don’t really want to build up a group of potential customers who hang out to get my weekly email! Who may one day buy from me – maybe if I was selling my own product – but if I return again and again to a site I just ignore the ads (well its worse these days I usually analysis the monetisation method- but I still dont buy LOL) You see as the name of the blog suggests I want passive income: I want to be able to take a month off and go on holidays and not login to the Internet. I work hard now and stupid hours – but I work so that I can get paid over and over down the line – while lying on that beach.
Listen to Lorecee – she makes good sense!
I just downloaded my trial version of Market Samurai, and it’s fascinating. I can see I have a lot to learn, but I also have a lot of enthusiasm.
I’m glad you both mentioned the fact that good social traffic (even a lot of it) doesn’t necessarily convert to high earnings. @ Lis: makes sense about selling one’s own product. It seems the only reason one would spend a lot of time on a ton of original content and be willing to invest in the “not-so-passive” income.
I have a lot of things to think about, but while doing so, I am collecting my tools and thinking hard about the most viable plans and most reachable goals. I thank you both for your advice; it has been a tremendous help.
Glad you are having fun Kelly! Yes the social thing is a huge red herring – have fun with Market Samurai
Hi there, I showed interest in SBI, paid the $299, thought it would help a friend.
I struggled to stay awake through the b-o-r-i-n-g outdated tutorials. If anything could cause you to give up the will to live then this has to be it. They suggest that SBI is equivalent to a business degree. They have to be joking!
At present I’m banned from the forums for standing up for another newbie, so I can’t access the valuable information there. LOL
It’s a networkmaketing set up, calling itself an affiliate, which of course it aint and apart from percentage with sites with valuable key words, seems to consist of a huge bunch of wannabe IMs only making money introducing others to do likewise.
Several SBIers I know have spend hundreds/thousands of hours working on their sites as per SBI tutorials Zzzzz! and still haven’t made any money from them. They say, rote fashion, “I’ll have to build more pages” and “I’m retired anyway, so anything is a bonus!” and “It may not be making much now but it’ll be much more by the time I retire” and “We can leave the sites in our Wills.”
And with some hoping merely to make enough to cover their annual fees, they neglect to count their time (wages)in the “overheads” equasion. In all truth, they’d make more if they took a part time job such as walking dogs or being a postie, and it would be far more enjoyable.
It’s all happy families on the forums. So much time taken up reading comments such as “How nice your site is, you’ll soon be making lots of money, just write a few hundred pages before monetising”. You really have to search for the meat of the topic.
And if you ask an awkward question or raise any slghtly contraversial issue and you’re banned from the forums, until you email support, accepting and acknowledging your bad behaviour and resolve not to misbehave again. And no, I’m not making this up. I’m still banned. LOL.
Great info here folks. I’ll be back.
PS Love Market Samurai btw, have used it for ages.
Actually sounds lot like a business degree – I made half thru one but the boredom won out in the end
Im not saying every site I have makes me money – but at least I don’t spend all year building one of them – and walking dogs or cleaning at least will get you fitter than sitting behind the computer. I am really over sites which control their forums – businesses that can’t handle criticism really deserve no place on the Internet! Any business that can’t handle criticism or admit that there’s is not the ONLY way to make money online needs to get with the real world really. Making $300/year on a site that you have spent many thousands of hours on is really very sad – unless it was never your intention to make money in the first place – but I assume because SBI bills itself as a way to develop a business that’s not the case here! Leave your site in your will- that’s a new one 
Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for a fascinating tour through the internet — SBI was recommended to me; I looked up SBI, Reviews on Google, got your original blog, and followed the links from there.
What a great education. Dunno whatall I’m going to do with it, but it’s been fun.
Well I can pretty much say that you will never come across a more interesting set of comments when looking for any product review that I’ve acquired over these 2 posts! Come visit again if you decide to persue makeing money online, and delighted to be an entertainment!
Well I just asked for a refund after a nasty chat with someone in the forum. OMG the rules is unbelievable, it definitely feels like a cult. I was only with them since Saturday, horrible and very confusing and frankly I’ve seen several of their websites and they are ugly and why are the names so long? I hate hyphens in websites, hard to remember. Good luck all. I don’t know where to go now to start an online business, any suggestions?
Hi Lisa, Congrats on getting out sooner rather than later. Yes I do have an option to recommend: The Keyword Academy. It costs a $1 for the first month and $33/month after that but they will teach you how to think and you can have as many websites as you want . If you want to cancel after a month – you just cancel the sub in Paypal – there is no obligation to even tell them! And the forums are unregulated
And for the cynics the KWA program did not even exist when I wrote this post – it just happens to be the answer to the question that Lisa and many others have asked me!
Thanks Lis, I almost put an “a” at the end, Lis looks lonely without it, lol!
Hi,
I made half through one but the boredom won out in the end. I am not saying every site I have makes me money – but at least I don’t spend all year building one of them – and walking dogs or cleaning at least will get you fitter than sitting behind the computer.
It’s a networking set up, calling itself an affiliate, which of course it and and apart from percentage with sites with valuable key words, seems to consist of a huge bunch of wannabe. IMs only making money introducing others to do likewise.
Thanks.
Hi,
I was considering SBI but am glad to have come across the review and other options for making money from a content/blog structure.
I’m glad you both mentioned the fact that good social traffic doesn’t necessarily convert to high earnings.
Great job on the update post. I was concerned with some of the accuracies in your previous post and you put that to rest.
Thanks.
Hi all,
I am interested in creating a website and of course try to make some extra money while doing so. Therefore, I came across SBI, I was really excited that there was a product that can do it all for me.
However, it was just a bit too good to be true, so I googled it, and of course I got all the great reviews, so I figured it was great, and I was gonna buy, but I said let me just check out this last review, which was when I read your first blog and it goes on.. LOL
I lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve this blog, I love the way you stood up to Ken and his followers. I loved the honesty, the sarcasm, the jokes, yet seriousness. You also saved me from spending 300.00, so thank you very much Lis.
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Continue doing your thing
Gabby I am so pleased you still have your $300! I hope you managed to get that website up with out SBI – I’m sure you will!
Hey Lis, no I havent been able to create a website as site, I am still confused with all the information and I am trying 2 not make too many costly mistakes, so if you have any suggestions I will gladly take them
Try WordPress – you can make it look like a regular website as well as using it as a blog
Great! I will go check it out now, and I will let you know how I am progressing. Thanks again for your great blog.. LOL Love it!
Hey Lis, great post here! I also had the thought of getting involved with SBI and read nothing but good reviews but for some reason I decided to put it off. So anyway tonight was going to be the nite that I paid my $300 and started with SBI….. until I stumble across your blog……thanks! The thing is I really don’t even remember how I got here. I think you might have made a comment on another blog then i clicked on the link to your blog. I do wish I had found your blog about 2 hours earlier since it is now way past my bedtime !! Anyway keep up the fucking great work! Larz
LOL re your bed time – sorry about that! Feel free to subscribe to my RSS feed and come back – most of the time I don’t have posts which take quite as long to read! Good luck with your new ventures
Thats ok it was worth the lost sleep!! I will subscribe to your RSS feed forsure since I have enjoyed what I have seen on here.Anyway keep up the great work and I’ll probably be on here leaving a comment from time to time. Thnx…..and now off to figure out what that new venture might be! Larz
I don’t feel like reading all of the comments, sorry if this has been repeated: for spelling—Firefox/Preferences/Advanced/General/check box “check my spelling as I type”
I have been researching the Site Build It program and looking at reviews and I came across your blog. Wow, it seems to touch more on personalities than on business and common sense. It’s amazing how the negative comments continue to gush out as if their product is wothless and yet there is a plug in there for another type of money making program “Keyword Academy” that you reviewed. I wonder if you are making anything from them. Here’s the bottom line: I am just your average Jo Blo trying to find an avenue to make money and it is incredible to me that there are so many conflicting opinions out there about anything you become interested in. I am blown away at the way human beings tear each other down. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and unfortunately, most are totally wothless. I have yet to form an opinion on Site Build It because I cannot trust any of the opinions now. It’s a shame because it really looks like a way to begin the site building learning process if nothing else with some guidance. That should be worth something.
Sorry for the spelling errors. Never won the spelling bee.
“It’s amazing how the negative comments continue to gush out as if their product is wothless and yet there is a plug in there for another type of money making program “Keyword Academy” that you reviewed”
Jim The problem with Site Build It is that you have to pay $300 for each site per year. You are locked into paying that every year to keep your site. If you are going to make money from niches you need a lot of sites and you can do it at much, much lower cost using free WordPress and hosting for around $9 a month.
Keyword Academy is completely different in that it teaches you how to do niche marketing so you can build up a business that YOU control and once you’ve learned how to do that you can stop paying the monthly subscription if you want to.
Granted that with Site Build It you don’t have to learn how to make a site etc but this should be a long term business plan and if you aren’t prepared to put in the effort to learn the basics of building a web site (which is really easy with WordPress!) then go ahead and pay $300 a year per site but you would be much better of in the long run learning how to do it properly.
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At present I’m banned from the forums for standing up for another newbie, so I can’t access the valuable information there. LOL
Yes indeed. Unless you tow the line, agree with everything the poor brainwashed souls over there believe, then you’re made to feel very unwelcome by the evoy moderators. But try to defend yourself, since you know you’ve been wronged, and they ban you from the forums and refuse to speak to you at all. That’s the kind of business ethic you’re in danger of learning over at sbi.
Just googling “Site Build It” and found your site. Now i should think twice to use their services
. Thanks a lot Lis
It is amazing what you can do with WordPress!! After 24 hours, I’m enjoying building my Blog site. It costs me $18.00 (14.95 for custom domain name, and 3 bucks for the custom header image). Sweet!! Can’t say if SBI is a scam or not. I have only watched 4 days of their Action Guide video’s and familiar with its functionality and tools + saw handfull of websites which were built with this tool. Not even close to what WordPress has to offer and how coll and flexible it is!